Terry sent me a link to this- which raised a few painful chuckles.
Painful as it was very familiar!
Not quite sure what point they are making though. Is the issue about image and presentation? Do we just need to be hipper and more trendy? I thought this had been tried, and had not worked, at least in the UK. Perhaps we are just not trendy enough? Perhaps we aimed at Starbucks but got stuck somewhere in a 1950’s milk bar?
Perhaps too the church in America is a bit different- they can still count on large numbers of folk who go every Sunday, even though numbers are going down there also.
For my part, I think that church as an institution does need change. But perhaps the real issue is that we Christians need to change the way we live out faith, rather than the way we institutionalise it…
The clip above seems to be challenging the church to market itself better. Is this what we should be about? Sure, I can see the wisdom of being creative and relevant in how engage with the world around us, but I still feel uncomfortable with the idea of ‘church marketing’.
I think this relates to a certain extent to New Labour, and ‘spin’. In 1997, I was euphoric along with many others as the Labour government swept aside the Tories and finally came into government. They had finally found themselves a winning formula that was eminently marketable, just as the Conservatives seemed to degenerate into a sleeze jelly.
But ideology, passion, reality- all seems to have been subordinated to spin. The message was lost in the marketing.
But I also feel a bit uncomfortable with the idea of church as ‘corporation’.
Church is (or I think SHOULD be) a collective of activists, whose rules of engagement are counter cultural, as well as intra cultural. We are called out, to seek and to save. To liberate captives and bring sight where there is blindness.
Marketing techniques, whose aim is to attract more people in, to build up the corporation- nope, not for me I think…
I don’t think the film is about marketing. I think it’s about welcoming. And the church always has lots to learn about how to do that.
Hi Stewart
Not sure I fully agree with you on that- the welcoming idea takes me towards an idea of acceptance, openness and a desire to serve. I kind of still associate it with being a good host, and preparing an environment that draws people in and allows them to find a place at the table. I have been part of church groups that have talked abuout this for years- and little has changed- perhaps some tinkering around the edges.
If we could make these things part of the core principles of what church is, this would be great- although getting the balance right between sticking to ‘attractional’ models of church, and seeing the church as a people SENT into our place and time is a major challenge I think.
We are not part of a large church at the moment, so it is an easy dig to have at larger organisations- but even small groups like ours (25ish) can easily become static and comfortable- to the exclusion of others, and in a way that makes getting out there and connecting with others very difficult. We are chewing on this at the moment…
I am not sure that this film is about welcoming either. Check out the guys blog/website where he develops his themes- he has written a book called ‘Church marketing’ as well.
Cheers
Chris