I have just listened to this programme on D H Lawrence. Great fun- Mathew Paris and John Heggerty are always worth listening to.
I have always felt a slight kinship with Lawrence. He is english (rather than English) in the same way that I am- born a few miles from where I was born in Nottinghamshire, son of a miner and a mother with pretentions.
Only a slight kinship, because his star burned brighter from an early age. He was a creature of another age, whose restless energy took him round the world, but never quite to satisfaction.
Some of his poetry is sublime. Even if some of his writing, with it’s awkward sexual obsessions, is rather awful.
Here is one of his wonderful poems-
Shadows
And if tonight my soul may find her peace
in sleep, and sink in good oblivion,
and in the morning wake like a new-opened flower
then I have been dipped again in God, and new-created.And if, as weeks go round, in the dark of the moon
my spirit darkens and goes out, and soft strange gloom
pervades my movements and my thoughts and words
then I shall know that I am walking still
with God, we are close together now the moon’s in shadow.And if, as autumn deepens and darkens
I feel the pain of falling leaves, and stems that break in storms
and trouble and dissolution and distress
and then the softness of deep shadows folding,
folding around my soul and spirit, around my lips
so sweet, like a swoon, or more like the drowse of a low, sad song
singing darker than the nightingale, on, on to the solstice
and the silence of short days, the silence of the year, the shadow,
then I shall know that my life is moving still
with the dark earth, and drenched
with the deep oblivion of earth’s lapse and renewal.And if, in the changing phases of man’s life
I fall in sickness and in misery
my wrists seem broken and my heart seems dead
and strength is gone, and my life
is only the leavings of a life:and still, among it all, snatches of lovely oblivion, and snatches
of renewal
odd, wintry flowers upon the withered stem, yet new, strange flowers
such as my life has not brought forth before, new blossoms of methen I must know that still
I am in the hands of the unknown God,
he is breaking me down to his own oblivion
to send me forth on a new morning, a new man

Hi Chris,
I look forward to reading the proofs for your re-write of Lady Chatterly’s Lover with an alternative worship / emergent church setting. Firstly tho’ you will need to get started on the beard. The floppy fringe is becoming trickier to produce too!
I heard a really interesting discussion about Freud the other day- and how DH Lawrence is saturated with all those sexual images which seem so ridiculous to us now- all those swirling loins and rivers of passion…
It was suggested that now we do not need images to talk about sex- all this has gone. Neither do we see our sexuality as separate from our selves. Sex is everywhere now.
Is this a good thing? yes and no I think.
But mainly- it just is how it is now.
So taking your funny comment and making it serious- sex in worship? Hmmm- perhaps it is not so far away.
Or perhaps that will just get you into too much trouble!
C
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Chris – good, good stuff here! I started skimming this poem, and I immediately knew, this was nothing to be skimmed. So glad I really took the time to take this in.
Thanks, as always, for sharing. Much appreciated.